honda pilot piston ring recall

I really wish I knew about this problem with some Hondas cause I would of not bought this car at all. I have a 2008 Honda Accord V-6 EXL. v. American Honda Motor Co. Inc., Case No. The 2009-2013 Honda Pilot is the subject of two TSBs for the piston rings which may fail at roughly 72,000 miles or compromise spark plugs. At first, I appreciated them for not cheating me or charging me for an unnecessary repair, but now after reading this article, I think their just trying to avoid a repair they know theyd be responsible for. 2 days ago while we were out of town, it happened again going down the interstate. Class Members do not need to take any action to obtain the warranty extension, which will cover repairs for the affected vehicles within eight years of the original purchase or lease date of the vehicle, with no mileage limitation. I AM THE SECOND OWNER AND I BOUGHT IT FROM A HONDA DEALERSHIP. 3:12-cv-1377-SI (N.D. It turned out there were misfires on cylinders 5 and 6 and for some strange reason told me my car was going to have to stay over night because they need to do a second diagnostic. It was down 2 quarts the first time and only .5 quart the second time. Asked by hdbaker Dec 05, 2016 at 08:31 PM about the 2012 Honda Pilot EX-L with Nav 4WD. My car is a Honda Odyssey 2012, does Honda would cover these expenses? to claim cash from in our The same thing has just happened again. Ive invested at least 9 dealership visits and several hours of work missed, my car is still not properly repaired to avoid this misfiring issue. When the engine is cold the check engine light would come on along with the VSA light, P0306 #6 cyl. Isnt this illegal?? My Hondas check engine light and VSA light were on. Was told by dealer too late to repair under warranty even though I bought less than 2 years ago. I wasnt going for that crap, especially when I overheard the service manager talking about this defect two years ago. A little tutorial might help. This car is already out of the warranty so I guess they must have an internal recall on this. Took to Honda dealer and code returned issue with a misfire in cylinder #3 due to a piston ring failure. I love my vehicle but I am so frustrated with this already. Sad situation. I was able to get a hold of someone. 2 months wouldnt be that unusual, depending on parts and machine shop availability. The TSB is the result of A-A-Classction lawsuit. Its not like I ran into or over something or drove the van like a bat out of hell..this is CRAZY. I spoke with Hondas customer relations office and the dealer. So why didnt the dealer tell me that when they sold it to me?? Please do another lawsuit or a recall something. Plus the diagnostic cost me another 150 or so dollars. I have a 2009 Honda Accord that is a 4 cylinder. RAM, OLSON, CEREGHINO & KOPCZYNSKI, Lawrence Deutsch Loyal Honda customer for over 20 years. I have a 2011 Odyssey with around 87,000 miles on it. I HAD A TUNE UP THE 1ST TIME , THE SECOND TIME AFTER MY OIL CHANGE THE VSA AND CHECK ENGINE LIGHT DISAPPEARED . I do have a shudder at steady speeds on flat roads which I attribute to the transmission but in retrospect, it might be a misfire. The code for misfire hasnt came back up but I went through it so much prior to the repairs I know what it feels like. Thanks. In our commitment to maintain outstanding safety, reliability, performance and environmental standards, Honda occasionally asks our owners to bring their Honda to a dealer to perform recalls and/or product updates. Honda has recalled 2003 Honda Pilots to replace the airbag inflator. Replied I am debating if I should take it to the dealer or my mechanic. Purchased my 2008 Accord in 2012, had no probs with it until last Friday. any help out there? It is one thing to find out about an issue after and inform current owners. So my question is do I need to sign up for this class action suit? It has about 88,000 miles on it. The VCM recall fix is temporary. v. Honda Motor Co. Inc.) alleging that Honda manufactured more than 1.5 million defective vehicles that excessively burned oil. Eugene Tompkins. That does not care sbout the safety of its consumers! My minivan(11, odyssey) was having this misfire from time to time. After several years of the local dealer telling me the proper codes were not coming up to get the problems fixed I have replaced a set of spark plugs, 3-4 quarts of oil per month, along with the power steering pump that went out at 60,000 miles and, uh oh, we missed the time frame to submit that warranty claim. The VIN entered is invalid. I didnt have an extended warranty so Honda care wasnt much help but the department manager of my Honda dealership was helpful Im not sure if it was because I called so often (and was a squeaky wheel) but he was very helpful. You need to prove that your car is burning more than a qt in 1000 miles. Diag. My 2011 is covered until 2019. They will tell you that you need a timing belt. I bought a 2007 Honda Fit; I have had to change the spark plugs so many times Ive lost count. Fastest one I did was about 3.5 hours. It is recommended that you input your VIN. Then the catalytic converter failure is currently our issue, or could be oil leaking into the piston ring, burning gas, or could be something else? Alex Soto, et al. Every 4-6 weeks i have to pull the fouled plug in Cyl 1 and replace it. My Accord gave codes for cylinder 1, 2, and 3 misfire. yes? I know this Sux.. but thats all I know to do at this point.. Had the same problem with my 2011 Honda Accord. Hopefully I can get it adequately repaired by Honda now with the backing of the warranty extention settlement. Recalls were made for the fuel pump, tires, incorrect central network software programming on the rear-view camera, improper welding of the front frame to the unibody, timing belt teeth separating from the timing belt, and roof pillar problems. 494 90K views 7 years ago Installing VCM Muzzler II on a 2012 Honda Pilot to disable Variable Cylinder Management. Recall no. I have 2008 Honda Accord, it burn the oil like crazy, i have to keep an eye on it all the time and fill the oil at least 1 litter every week. My dealer just claimed it was normal wear at 20,000 miles which seemed odd that the rear went before the front. The exhaust valve and piston were fixed. I have had this vehicle for 4.5 years never knew anything about this lawsuit . They wouldnt even contact Honda Corporate to see if they would do it under good will. I cant believe they wont admit it. Its good though that Honda is stepping up and not charging your for it, so consider that a big boost to your wallet anyway. Mine also makes a high idle rough sound upon starting cold and always wait for it to drop down in idle before taking off. I should not have to worry about being stranded in a practically new vehicle. Recall date. Spoke to my service advisor today, and he informed me that there was another 2011 Honda Odyssey that was brought in today for the same reason. It's a warranty extension for oil consumption. Ive always used mobile one synthetic oil for oil changes. I have a feeling that next week when I call they will say itll be another week. Gas mileage has decreased significantly in the past several months. year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. My 2010 Honda Odyssey with only 40,000 miles had flashing engine light. A simple, easy way to find recall and product update information on your Honda. Back in January wife was experiencing what we took to be mild mis-firing so my wife took the Pilot into the the local dealer. Its because of the oil supposedly and i need to buy a new short block they said. I was notified about 2 different recalls: one for the airbag and one for the shift lever and immediately took it in and had it fixed. Notes: However I will never invest in a Honda vehicle again! Honda not willing to do the same for a known issue in a 2014 version. I am wondering if this issue has anything to do with the piston ring failure that caused the motor to have to be replaced. I took it to the dealership and they told me it was cylinders 1 and 2 that were misfiring. I only recently learned about the issues with VCM reading threads on OdyClub, and even though my '07 Touring with 130K miles doesn't have symptoms (high oil consumption, fouled plugs, etc.) I take it to Honda and they inform me recall is over. This can set DTCs P0301 through P0304 and cause the MIL to come on. Can I file to get the extended warranty. what can i do i do now? At my mechanic now. I went to them several times and they said it was a computer problem. The dealer wants me to pay for tear down as there is no compression in the cylinder#6. I really didnt want to argue with the Service Manager over the phone and really appreciated what they did to get my wife in and out as she needs to be back home later today. Since it was the same issue, I did what anyone would do and take it to dealership so they can fix it without having to cover any costs. I cant tell you whats going on because of lack of detail and the possibility of something being lost in translation. Dated 1-20-2015. Sep 13, 2015. rayman1943 said: Just received a recall for "The piston rings may be sticking resulting in high oil consumption". So, I received my first misfire code in 2018 at 124,000 miles. They then agreed to clean the heads and install a new software program that is supposed to be a solution. The rings are causing excessive oil consumption which the muzzler will fix- as, I have considered the tuner/muzzler option, but from what I understand, it's a band aid and not a repair, I'm just worried that my rings may be damaged. I have 95, 500 miles on my Honda, which by the way Ive never had an issue with the engine or anything else. Forum contains no unread posts For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. So think of a big mushroom being pulled to and fro in a drinking glass. A car's piston rings regulate engine oil consumption and oil pressure. My spark plugs were not changed until my Honda Automobile Customer Representative, Yefri Lopez, approved the replacement. Waiting until engine blows up and they have to replace under extended warranty I purchased when I bought this car in fall of 2014. I am so irritated with them. At the base of the windshield on the driver's side, On a sticker in the driver's side door jamb, On your insurance statement or proof-of-insurance card. Should I file for the reimbursement and extended warranty, or should I sue? They advised it was from the oil getting into the combustion chamber just like the V6s. Nearly a quart a already and havent even done the first oil change yet. This is my first and may very well be my last Honda. Knowing what collateral damage WILL eventually occur from this condition is a major concern. The mileage is about 76.000. 2012 Honda Pilot 50K check engine light eventually led to misfire and repair under class action lawsuit. the recall began october 30, 2017. owners may contact honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. honda's numbers for this recall are o07, y0a, n06, g05, m04, y01, and o09. I do not trust anything the dealership says about my 2012 Honda Crosstour. The problem: Piston rings may rotate and align in certain Honda cars. There is a safety feature that shuts down the engine if you barely depress the brake pedal, which I was unknowingly doing with my left foot sometimes. I am very happy about this class action and hope to hear something soon! This really needs to be a recall. The first time it was misfiring, I took it to a shop and they fixed it. I have garaged it at the same address since that day. Oil leaks on exhaust make car smell horrible. But they only chose to do the repair that way because it guaranteed them that dealers would be rid of unhappy customers after exactly one visit and not because it was mechanically necessary. Thanks! 2008 Accord V6. They did tell me that all the mechanic work previously completed was superbly performed so that was not the issue. The work order cites the Soto class action lawsuit. Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. Honda obviously is refusing to fix the problem. When someone brings in a cylinder head there are usually 30 or 40 other cylinder heads in line ahead of it; not to mention engine blocks for boring, crankshafts to be reground, etc. Did you ever get anywhere with your case manager? What Im wondering is whether the initial repair likely fixed the problem, or whether the problem is likely to crop up again. This is the 3rd time in a month and a half Ive had a misfire in cylinder 3. 347-427-1700 (H). Cylinder misfire. Also admitted they were aware if this issue, but it quote sound like personal problem, and maybe I shouldnt drive it with my son in there if I am so worried! At this point I have nothing to lose so I might as well try it. You must contact the A second wave of checks will go out this Fall, according to the Settlement Administrator. And a couple of weeks ago my engine came on flashing and traction light came on. odyclub.com is not in any way affiliated with Honda Motor Company, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I love my Odyssey, but almost makes me want to go buy another manufacturers model. If the person at the dealership who told you that the valve, or valves, were damaged due to oil consumption and plug fouling then they are dead wrong. Lookup honda Torque converter defect, issues. Honda replaced the spark plugs, for free, 3 times. Commenters on another board to which I posted suggested having something called a VCMuzzler installed. I got it back last week and its already fouling out again. At first we got error code P0301, cylinder one misfire, car running rough engine hesitating. It cut out on me in rush hour in a tunnel (I live on the peninsula in Virginia and travel to the south side via tunnel) Now I am scared to death to drive this car and unfortunately I owe so much on it, it sits parked. I have a $12000 balance to pay off this car when the dealer was most likely aware of this. At the third one I was down only .5 quart again (fishy). The cylinder head and pistons/cylinder walls are completely different. I have replaced an ignition coil, oil pressure switch, it is burning oil and is being blamed on a leaking vtec spool valve I believe it is all related to this misfire issue. I have always LOVED Honda, but now I am very skeptical. I was told by the service desk that I should add a quart of oil to my car between oil changes. This engine has had some troubles. Engine burns small amount of oil, down about a pint at the next oil change. The below will cost you under 300 dollars and is a cheap place to start, and trading the vehicle in without issues will get you more on the trade in value. I argue about how the charges came about if it was the exact same problem I had a month ago. When it had it the car will vibrate quite a bit, and the VSA warning light comes on along with the check engine light; The code disappears quickly though. Sticky Just aggravated Im having to deal with this, and other people as well. My 2014 Honda Odyssey has been experiencing this issue for the last 8 months or so. The parties agree that there are no safety concerns with the vehicles named in the litigation. It is only cylinders 1-4(because they are the ones that are shut down during ECO). A federal judge has granted final approval to a massive class action lawsuit settlement between American Honda Motor Co. and more than 1.87 million consumers who owned or leased a Honda Accord, Odyssey, Pilot, or Crosstour. UPDATE: Reimbursements from the Honda Engine Misfire Class Action Settlement were mailed July 14, 2014. Why are they required to give me a new timing belt? American Honda is announcing a powertrain warranty extension as a result of a settlement of a class captioned, Soto etal V American Honda Motor Co., Inc., Case No. Please let me know if you have heard anything back. This is an engineering design flaw, plain and simple class action suit was an easy way out for Honda. Or unwanted rapid acceleration issues / problems in Honda vehicles!! What a mistake to buy Honda??? If this had happened two years ago for you, then Honda would have paid to replace the piston rings in cylinders 1-4 only. your claim status, claim form or questions about when payments are TONS of MDX, pilot, ridgeline, etc running VCMuzzlers or similar options on the market. I had my oil changed and 4 weeks later my car did not register any oil on the oil dip stick so this is effecting more then the V6 Honda Accords because mine is a 4 cylinder. Not without some persistence on my part at times. It is better for it to take longer and be done correctly than take less time and done incorrectly. Dont trust local dealer service. The ceramic around the electrode was missing. Are you sure this a recall, or just the warranty extension that everyone got a long time ago for this issue. Now have 104k miles and have spent the last 3 months troubleshooting a misfire code with our mechanic. What can I do? If only the cylinder head is being serviced and theres a valve problem at 70k miles, in most cases that is due to incorrect valve lash; meaning the lash is too tight and which causes the valve and valve seat to burn. Honda is telling me this is not covered on the extended warranty which was given for the misfire issue. JavaScript is disabled. 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