Dont ever think youre indespensible. These people were very wealthy and wielded great power. If not, then why do we need to find the remains of Thamud? I think its just like 43:47, 21:12, 32:26 and 37:73. [26] The name is a misnomer from the nineteenth century, when such texts were discovered in areas associated with the Thamud in the Islamic tradition. In sura 15, there seems to be a chronological order: At first the story of Adam (as) is mentioned (26-50), then the story of Abraham (as) and Lot (as) (51-77), then the story of the people of al-Rass,i.e. Salam. 'Ad and Thamud are closely connected by both Islamic and pre-Islamic sources. These include Sunni Huwala and Achomi people, who compromise of both fully Arab and mixed Arab-Persian families. If we remember that Ismails mother (Hajjar) was an Egyptian, or Coptic, slave, and his father Prophet Ibrahim (AS) was Babylonian, then its obvious that he couldnt also be Arab. The Quran on the Cerebrum: _ Qur'an and Science. Vol. And perhaps, over the generations, these people developed their own magnificent society with its own special hallmarks and characteristics. Good reply Adeel. Are women deficient in intelligence in Islam? Anyway, whats really important is what led to their punishment. Khurusani Arabs were mainly contingent from Nejdi tribes such as Banu Tamim. The Thamd were known from contemporary sources to have occupied parts of the Hejaz region, and later Islamic tradition holds that they settled on the slopes of Mount Athlab. Are these tourist sites now identified at Madian Saleh the same as those we see discussed in the saheeh ahadith during the Tabuk expedition or is that a different location because these sites are identified as built by Nabataens and not Thamud and are considered much later than Thamud people (if we consider the finds to be absolutely authentic that these are Nabataens who built them. Ive discussed this more below. Take your time and let it sink in: 1. Thereupon Allahs Messenger () commanded that the water collected for drinking should be spilt and the flour should be given to the camels and commanded them that the water for drinking should be taken from that well where the she-camel used to come. [5] This entire passage has been sent by Waqar. What? And does the verses before say the Arabs could see the Arabs loft pillars or just saying what they used to do 89:6-8 Do not enter the dwellings of those who wronged themselves unless you are weeping, lest you be afflicted with the likes of what afflicted them. Required fields are marked *. Nigel Groom said that Sargon II recorded his subjugations of the tribe of Tamud in 715 BCE, that Agatharchides refers to the land of the Thamoudenian Arabs, Diodorus Sicilus refers to the Thamudeni, Pliny speaks of the Tamudaei, Ptolemy mentioned the Thamudiatea and also the Thamydeni and a Nabatean inscription dated to 166-169 CE refers to the nation or federation of the Thamudeans.[3][4]. This generally means that despite very weak appearance now they one were very well established from the remanats. Theres no real reason to mention them lastly, except they came after al-Rass and they are also included in this chronological order as well. Its not an easy read, especially as most of the stories leave the reader perplexed in terms of their relevancy to ones personal life or attainment of anything didactic that enriches or nurtures a relationship with God. Hence I clearly mentioned in my original comment that this seems to be the weakest of all interpretations. We dont have remains of Ad, do we? The Story of The Aad And The Thamud Nation_ Qur'an __ | _ Dua for Relief Distress, Laziness, Debts : Suhih Muslim_ Book of General Behaviour_ Kitab al Suhih Muslim_ The Book of Destiny (KITAB-UL-QADR) Chapter___ Raising Index Finger in Tashahhud. The Nabataean kingdom existed from the 3rd or 2nd century BC, could it be that their punishment was a long one after a prophet was sent to them sometime before Prophet Isa AS? And as for Aad, they were destroyed by a screaming violent windstorm which Allah imposed on them for seven days and eight nights straight. Another inscription from the same temple mentions Aad by name, and reads, by Ghawth son of Aslah son of Thokam and he constructed the temple of Allt, of the people of Ad. Certain objections can and may arise with the above narrative. Suppose if Nuh ( ) came 40,000 years ago or even 100,000 years ago and the few hundred or a few thousand people were destroyed by the flood, then it would not be difficult to believe that human population reached in millions, further subdividing into nations, communities, and tribes, after thousands of years. I feel there may be some misconception about how to view Quran. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . The 2 verses are very generic in that they describe the general civilizations over time that have been destroyed or have perished but their signs remain behind. In fact, they are no recognised as Nabatean tombs, resembling the earlier more primitive ones among those to be seen at Petra in present day Jordan, not the late elaborately carved Greco-Roman facades. We do not believe in the Bible the way it is today. When they cut the hamstring of a female camel that God had sent down for them, despite the prophet's warnings, they were annihilated, except for Salih and his followers. What the Prophet () and the Sahaba went through during Tabuk was overall the joint place of Thamud and Nabateans and more specifically the exact well from where the she-camel drank. The earliest abundant references for Thamud in our literary sources are in relation to the Nabataean empire a large Arab kingdom encompassing parts of modern Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia (including the Hejaz, the area containing Mecca and Medina) and even parts of Sinai. According to the Online Corpus of the Inscriptions of Ancient North Arabia (OCIANA) at the University of Oxford: Thamudic is a name invented by nineteenth-century scholars for large numbers of inscriptions in ANA alphabets which have not yet been properly studied. Their responses, while snarky, were fairly simple. God knows best. [24] These tribes advanced in large numbers all the way to Morocco, contributing to a more extensive ethnic, genetic, cultural, and linguistic Arabization in the region. The means of God's destruction of Thamud include a thunderbolt, a storm, a shout, and an earthquake. (LogOut/ Why? They were built not before the time of Musa ( ), but during the first century BC and the first century CE. There is no possibility that these were houses. The crafts became abundant and firmly rooted. [27] Both tribes are of great reputed antiquity and, according to traditional Arab genealogists, are two of the four ba 'ida, or extinct tribes. The buildings of Thamud may or may not have remained but the well did exist then Here is how their argument goes: The Quran describes prophet called Salih ( ), who lived in the Thamud tribe. The glorious Qur'an considered the people of 'Ad after Nuh (a); when it says, "and that it is He who destroyed the former 'Ad", "The former 'Ad" were the people of Prophet Hud (a) who lived after the people of Nuh (a) and before the people of Thamud. It is likely, then, that most of the artifacts in this region belonged to the many generations of those who came after them as the Quran mentions. The hadiths show that there were wells present in that particular spot attributed to the Thamud. One-third of the tombs, which are amongst the largest, are clearly dated to between 0-75 CE. A similar narrative can be found in Jeremiah 49:16 What do u think? Or symbolic its talking about the left more of a legacy in there story. Modern historiography "unveiled the lack of inner coherence of this genealogical system and demonstrated that it finds insufficient matching evidence".[14]. Guiding Romantic Desire: Wisdom in the Sexual Ethics of Islam, Custodianship of the Right Hand: Concubinage, Rape, and Sexual Slavery in Islam. There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger . Of course there are lessons to be taken from the stories of these two nations. 11. 2 See, I will make you small among the nations; The people led wealthy excessive lives, built grand buildings, both on the plains, and carved into the hills. The following are four verses from Obadiah: 1 The vision of Obadiah. If they were made for dead bodies, it stands to reason that we should find at least one dead body in them. For a few reasons. They were able to build great structures and buildings, They had children to carry on their progeny. It is estimated by some historians that Moses (s) lived around the 16th century BCE. I think some more research is needed to establish where the ruins are that are clearly mentioned in the Tabuk expedition hadith. They mistreated the lower classes and worshiped others besides Allah. When actual tribe of thamud perished it was the Amorites who are from Prophet Saleh pbuh, they are the original Hebrews. 5. [17] The Muslim governor of Egypt encouraged the migration of tribes from the Arabian Peninsula to Egypt to increase the Muslim population in the region and to strengthen his regime by enlisting warrior tribesmen to his forces, encouraging them to bring their families and entire clans. They carved-out habitations on the hills and mountainscaves constructed on high places. Not only did they reject them, they mocked, ridiculed, and in the case of Salih (AS) they even tried to kill him. The Story of Adam (The First Man) _ part 1. Suhih Muslim _ The Book of Prayers (Kitab Al-Salat || Html Code Widget || Blogger Website Blog || At _ The story of cow. Asking the deceased for supplications or intercession? Unfortunately, both nations rejected their prophets. SUHIH MUSLIM _ THE BOOK OF HEART-MELTING TRADITION 40 Hadith Qudsi_ Al Nawawi's Forty Hadith. Imagine if in a thousand years, the United States is a completely different landscape, much of it devoid of inhabitants and all of the history associated with its people are lost. So proceed through the earth and observe how was the end of the deniers. (Quran 16:36). Of course, only Allah knows the truth. The earliest Arab tribes emerged from Bedouins. 3) The tombs were in fact built by Thamud as houses and the Nabateans simply inscribed them later. On the first day, their skin would turn yellow; on the second day, red; and on the final day of destruction, black. Ala-Maududi. I am also writing an text on this that I inshaAllah will put up online. Umar reported that the people encamped along with Allahs Messenger () in the valley of Hijr, the habitations of Thamud, and they quenched their thirst from the wells thereof and kneaded the flour with it. The Thamud did not worship God, and were disobedient. Theyre mentioned in 25:38 and 50:12. You would only make my loss greater. In fact they were pretty snarky in their responses. This is because Prophet Ismail (AS) is often considered to be the father of Arabs just like Prophet Ishaaq/Isaac (AS) is considered to be the father of the Israelites. Will you forbid us to worship what our fathers worshiped? It is argued that the Quran and the Prophet () made an error in history and facts[1]. Allah says: `Say, O Muhammad, to these idolators who disbelieve in the message of truth that you have brought: If you turn away from that which I have brought to you from Allah, then I warn you of the punishment of Allah like the . al-Hijr, the second most important centre of the Nabataean empire, is the title of the 15th chapter of the Quran. [23] The ninth-century Muslim scholar Ibn Sad believed that the Thamud were the Nabateans. 2. The Bible makes a claim that a particular time in history, a people who lived in in the kingdom of EdomEdomites predate the Nabateans or the current historically accepted date of the structures carved from the mountainscarved out structures in the hills and mountains. Thamud were destroyed What is the issue here? So what we see are Hellenistic structures built by Midianites taken over from the Thamud. I will post the links here for now. Salamun alaikum, We have to be open to the idea that a person living thousands of years ago will have a different concept of a place of dwelling than we, in the 21st century, do. Nothing but solid rock underlies the rest of the facades. [22], A poem attributed to Umayya ibn Abi--alt, a Meccan contemporary of Muhammad who refused to accept Islam, contains a reference to the camel and Thamud. And they were also well-built because they still exist today. Khawiya seems to mean destroyed/overturned but the term could possibly mean ruined too. I believe neither are in error. [19], To the Thamd, We sent their brother, li. They also could have written inscriptions on the many structures that already existed. Although the Thamud probably originated in southern Arabia, a large group apparently moved northward at an early date, traditionally settling on the slopes of Mount Athlab. So you could see the people therein fallen as if they were hollow trunks of palm trees. The coloring of (sedentary culture) established itself firmly. Hud tried to reason with his people by reminding them of the many favors Allah had given them. Even though they built great sculptures, they werent extremely sophistated people. As also 'Ad and Thamud, and the Companions of the Rass, and many a generation between them. Have not invested any considerable time investigating the actual archeological claims. We are in grave doubt about what you are asking us to do." The Aad and Thamud were both located in the northwestern part of modern day Saudi Arabia near the border of Jordan. [6], Thamd is also mentioned in Classical sources. the fate and remains of past generations with our eyes bcuz verse 25:37 speaks about the people of Nuh AS and it tells us that Allah SWT left a sign for mankind. So nothing availed them [from] what they used to earn. Most of the monuments and inscriptions of the archaeological site of Al-Hijr date from the 1st century BCE and the 1st century CE. The Aad and Thamud were both located in the northwestern part of modern day Saudi Arabia near the border of Jordan. It does not imply that they were carved by members of the ancient tribe of Thamd. These people incurred the wrath of God and were destroyed. Based on the Quranic and Biblical evidence, and the lack of archeological evidence which can conclusively show that every single structure that is excavated, and those that will be excavated in the future, are all Nabatean in origin, I believe carving out structures on hills and mountains originated with the Thamud, which was later adopted by the Edomites, which later still, was adopted by the Nabateans. This is not but from the customs of the former peoples and we will not be punished.Chapter 26, Verses 136-136. Even if the prophet saw these exact structures which are visible today and we can, hypothetically, prove beyond a shadow of doubt that no one ever lived in them, and he took them to be the dwellings of the Thamud, that isnt a major problem. Sorry for such a late response. Look, it doesnt matter if you warn us or dont warn us, were not going to listen to you. It is possible that Edomites and or Thamud did carve out structures in the region, Nabateans, who came later, were inspired at some point during their history by the structures and proceeded to make a few of their own. A number of them branched out, which later became independent tribes (sub-tribes). 14. Thanks for the article and yea I see no problem. However, while I agree that these two groups are certainly predecessors to modern Arabs, Im not convinced that Hud, Salih, Shuayb, and Ismail were actually Arabs.. The Nabatean inscriptions are the ancient equivalent of graffiti, which humans even today have a predilection for. Man, you must be crazy. declares the LORD. They felt that their habitations would, somehow, secure them from destruction. But as is clear from the above discussion, Thamud were thriving as late as maybe the 4th century AD, while the people of Aad have left their final trails, only a few centuries before that. Their early inscriptions were in Aramaic, but gradually switched to Arabic, and since they had writing, it was they who made the first inscriptions in Arabic. [26] The Arab descendants of the original Arabian settlers who continue to speak Arabic as a first language currently form the single largest population group in North Africa. I am sure that is not the intention but it may appear like that. As regarding to the Ahadith from Ibn Umar (as), they seem to be a interpretation of him itself, the prophet (as) says nothing about them. How destroyed do you think the buildings were and does the hadith mean that there inside were not destroyed or could of they been destroyed as well or not. Your email address will not be published. [22], Thamudic is an aggregate name for some 15,000 inscriptions from all over Arabia, which have not been properly studied and identified as separate languages. Thamud scripts and finds are noted in the area as well as possible signs of the ancient people before Thamud. The title People of al-Hijr was, therefore, that of Nabateans who came much late in history and their period overlapped with Thamud-II, the remnants of Thamud-I, the subject of Quran.[5]. Hence, the Prophet (s) and his companions did visit the land of Thamud and reflected upon the ruins of many idolatrous peoples found there, but they did not claim that any of these specific artifacts belonged to the first tribe of Thamud from the Quran. So leave her to eat within Allahs land and do not touch her with harm, lest there seize you a painful punishment. "Thamud are an ancient Arabia, tribe or group of tribes that seem to have been prominent from about the 4th century BC to the first half of the 7th century AD. (LogOut/ Before sending the punishment on them, Allah sent two prophets to these nations. [Prophet], it is your Lord who is the Strong, the Mighty One. Qur'an and Hadith on Thamud and their Dwellings Abu Rahma / March 22, 2016 It is argued that the Qur'an and the Prophet () made an error in history and facts [1]. This individual was probably a merchant or official in service of the Babylonian court. Al-ijr is now a vast plain, interspersed with hills into which what looks from the outside like houses or tombs have been carved. The world is a prison-house for a believer and Par ()_ (): _ _____Terminology of Hadith. The fact that these structures are still around today, after nearly 4000 years is a testament to their quality and design. you who say to yourself, 3. The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee [21], A hadith tradition preserved in the a al-Bukhr collection narrates that the Islamic prophet Muhammad called Hegra "the land of Thamud" and did not allow his troops to drink from its wells or to use its water, and to never enter its ruins "unless weeping, lest occur to you what happened to them. Nabateans built over them means in general sense; it does not mean that each and every building was replaced by the Nabateans. . Aben Ezra thinks that caph, the note of similitude, is wanting; and that the sense is, thou thoughtest that Mount Seir could secure thee, as they that dwell in the clefts of a rock: whose habitation [is] high; upon high rocks and mountains, such as Mount Seir was, where Esau dwelt, and his posterity after, him. Ruins of Aad and Thamood existed at time of Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam Assalaamu alaykum I was wondering does verse 2938 of the Quran mean that the houses of Aad and Thamud are still standing and that we can see them If Aad were destroyed there is nothing left of Aad apart from their land so their houses have fallen down and if they were not standing in Prophet Muhammads sallallaahu . Archeologists have put these ruins from the first century BCE and the first century CE. The Quran tells us that the people of Ad started to build altars on the high places, and even strongholds in the mountains. People descended with the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, to the valley of Hijr, the land of Thamud, and they drank from the wells and kneaded flour with it. Later still, we find them mentioned by Ptolemy (d. 168AD), in his Geography.6. The Akkadians are the Arameans who are the Chaldeans who are the Nabateans who absorbed The Amorites. Obadiah 1:3 [27], The migration of Arab tribes to Mesopotamia began in the seventh century, and by the late 20th century constituted about three quarters of the population of Iraq. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. [15] A major source of income for these people was the taxation of caravans, and tributes collected from non-Bedouin settlements. Or just left relics in land 6. You have no god other than Him. We have heard a message from the LORD: Therefore, the Aad were a society that sprung up from the survivors of the flood, perhaps some of the same people who rode in the Ark with Prophet Noah (AS). For one, Allah certainly mentions that the Thamud were successors to the Aad. The Quran states regarding them: , And to the Thamud [We sent] their brother Salih. Thamud were destroyed Had the Prophet () thought that the rock carved structures in al-Hijr were those of Thamd, he would have pointed them out. And 'Ad and Thamud (people)! Asalam Alie Kum [4] This entire passage has been sent by Sharif. 85 percent of the region is still untouched, and hidden. Their dwellings remained but very partially I believe carving out structures in hills and mountains may have been a common practice within the ancient Arabia and its surroundings based on both the Biblical and Quranic accounts. The above article contained links to images which do not show up in here after I copied and pasted them from my ms word. Perhaps they couldnt understand the significance of receiving a camel. The tribes of Arabia descend from either one of the two Arab ancestors, Adnan or Qahtan. What we do know is that the Nabateans lived a nomadic life style. Its almost impossible to know for certain that the many tombs with Nabatean inscriptions are indeed constructed by them, especially when we know that only 15% of the area in Petra has been excavated and examined. They are of Arab origin, but now of mixed blood mostly with Nilo-Saharans and Nubians. A temple they constructed at Rawwafa, 200 miles north of Medina, mentions the following in a Greek-Nabataean bilingual inscription: For the wellbeing of the rulers of the whole world . [24] Whether the poem is genuinely by Umayya or is a post-Islamic creation is a matter of debate. The same can be said about 7:84 where Allah SWT is telling us to SEE the end of Sodom and Gomorrah. If accurate, the Prophet Salih (s) would have lived many generations and perhaps centuries before Moses. They mainly settled in the Hauran region and spread to modern Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan. The video (arabic): https://youtu.be/0XIPP6vsDmA. You may look at any tafsir, these Ayaat are general and simply refer to destroyed civilisations which may be Indus Valley (Mohenjodaro, Harappa), Sodom, and Pompeii among many others. If we try to discuss the lineage of the Arabs well be here forever. According to Arab tradition, the Adnanites are called Arabised because it is believed that Ishmael Spoke Aramaic and Egyptian then learnt Arabic from a Qahtanite Yemeni woman that he married. This is the temple that was built by the tribal unit of Thamd, the leaders of their unit, so that it might be established by their hands and be their place of veneration forever with the support of Antistius Adventus, the governor. [9] The Thamd also joined the Roman armies as auxiliaries, and the Notitia Dignitatum mentions two units of Thamd warriors serving the Roman Empire, one in Egypt and the other in Palestine.[10]. Other ahadith mention that this was the land of Thamud ie. A. Yusuf Ali wrote: The Thamud people were destroyed by a dreadful earthquake which threw them prone on the ground and buried them with their houses and their fine buildings., A terrible earthquake came and buried the people [of Thamud] and destroyed their boasted civilization. 89:9 is in past tense. Otherwise, it could be also the Lihyanites, who disappeared some time before Isa (as), they also had some kind of rock art. They are mentioned in the Quran as examples of civilizations that Allah had destroyed because of their sins and as signs of the fleeting nature of the worldly power. So you must also monitor your life for the signs that youre receiving. Id hate to be the one to rain on the holy Christian parade, but this inanity has to be responded to. They were a little more inquisitive (at least at first). They built buildings on the land and also carved them in hills. Since I dont have my own blog currently, I will post it here, in case it helps anyone. We find ruins of so many past civilisations such as Indus Valley (Mohenjodaro, Harappa), Sodom, and so on. The Nabataeans were nomadic Arabs who moved into territory vacated by the Edomites Semites who settled the region centuries before them. Indeed, the Quran states that many generations came after the first tribe of Thamud without specifying an exact timeline. Assalamualaikum thnx for the link. So Ill let that one go for another article and focus on the main discussion, the Aad and Thamud. And this advancement led to a stratified society of haves and have nots. 7. Assalamualaikum I dont believe 27:50-53 is necessarily referring to their houses existing at the time of the Prophet SAW when they tell us to behold the sign therein. They are often discussed when Allah is directing our attention to people who disobeyed Him and were punished as a result. The Quran and quoted Hadiths indicate that the buildings of the Thamud were visible at the time of the Prophet () as signs to the Arabs. As for now, we dont know. It is large enough to house individuals, should they have chosen to live inside them. This is an odd conclusion. What is uncovered thus far reveal that the structures are not dwellings, but tombs. This genealogical relationship is further reflected in the theory . [ Qur'an and Suhih Sunnah - Islamic Knowledge ]. In the worst cases, they may even go so far as to challenge Allah. It is addressed there By declining the noun Thamud or not, it means the region or the tribe. It was He who brought you into being from the earth and made you inhabit it, so ask forgiveness from Him, and turn back to Him: my Lord is near, and ready to answer." Aad are mentioned as another Arabian tribe destroyed by God for rejecting their Prophet Hud. Also there were no prophets between Isa AS and Muhammad SAW which is another issue to clarify. The Aad before them were pretty decent architects and built some fairly magnificent castles. Also is 27:52 past tense or present sorry to keep bothering you but these are it, Because you said 27:52 said they are destroyed fallen buy 89:9 makes it sound like there still standing clean and like brand new etc, 5. Amorites The facades vary in height and in the richness of their decorations. They were craftsmen. Large numbers of Bani Rasheed are also found on the Arabian Peninsula. their country was called Arabia Petraea, the rocky; and their metropolis Petra, the rock: Jerom says that they that inhabited the southern part of the country and dwelt in caves cut out of the rock, to screen them from the heat of the sun: or, thou that dwellest in the circumferences of the rock F16; round about it, on the top of it, in a tower built there, as Kimchi and Ben Melech. Al-Arab al-Ba'ida (Arabic: ), "The Extinct Arabs", were an ancient group of tribes of prehistory that included the 'd, the Thamud, the Tasm, the Jadis, the Imlaq (who included branches of Banu al-Samayda), and others. However, not all of them were destroyed; Salih and hisfollowers continued to live on. The Fatimid era was the peak of Bedouin Arab tribal migrations to Egypt. 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